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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:00 am  Post subject:  (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Obviously our 10 man has been having problems reliably killing him...so I've been looking into a few things.

Pohosa and Xenadin are almost always in the 10 man group, so I'm gonna assume they're healing. I think a combination of pally and sham or pally and priest would make this fight doable. i have trouble handling the single target healing needed after the soft enrage.

The healing plan I think already looks similar to this:

1st mark beaconed by xenadin while healing tanks, second healer on raid.

2nd mark is healed by xen with beacon still on the first mark, second healer takes up tank healing and raid healing.

a third mark can't happen. I dont know if we've killed it with a third mark before, but it makes it incredibly harder.

So what we need to work on is managing Saurfang's blood power. One way that is supposed to buy a lot of time is to use immunities immediately on the first few blood boil targets. A pally bubble definitely works, but I'm not sure if other class immunities work, such as Ice block and cloak of shadows. We always run with at least 1 pally for the most part, and often have a second pally. This makes the first two boiling bloods removable and should push back his blood power quite significantly.

He also gains blood power from beasts meleeing targets. Sometimes tanks or melee seem to pick them up with AoE, and not to pick on anyone here, but irox seems to catch them with revenge if I remember correctly. We need to avoid this at all costs. Sometimes after I would see this happen, we would get our first mark at 75% instead of 60% or later. So I'm fairly sure that beasts meleeing is quite a large amount of blood power.

One other idea I've tossed around a little bit is to really front load the DPS, to delay the first mark as long as we can into the fight. My idea is to solo heal the fight up until the first mark. Blow bloodlust and offensive CDs at the very start and have one of the healers do whatever DPS they can. Hopefully this would delay the first mark, and the second mark wouldn't happen until during frenzy most likely.

Whether to do that or not is really up to the healers preference, ie can the solo healer easily handle tank and raid damage until the first mark, and can the healers handle the full duration of frenzy with 2 marks up, without the aid of bloodlust.

Regardless of which strategy we use, we have to make managing blood power a higher priority.



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Trankile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:00 pm  Post subject:  (No subject) Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

I was doing a bit more looking around for information on this fight, and found this quote

"IB will remove Boiling Blood, CloS shouldn't (it's a physical debuff, which is why BoP works).

The biggest thing on the fight is
1) tanks never missing/being late on taunts
2) the Blood Beasts not hitting anyone

Avoiding power gain from Boiling Blood is trivial compared to those too, although every little bit helps."



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